• 08 December 2016 (128 messages)
  • @gram_bot #996 b o t 11:11 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: Via riot/matrix
  • @balasankarc #997 11:11 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen: Via telegram. :P
  • @gram_bot #998 b o t 11:12 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    asdofindia goes to set up slack integration so he can reply via that
  • @gram_bot #999 b o t 11:13 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: grambot: dump proprietary services and be free :)
  • @stultus #1000 11:13 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    @praveen[m]1 hey
  • @gram_bot #1001 b o t 11:15 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: stultus, hey
  • @gram_bot #1002 b o t 11:18 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: matrix/riot is really nicely done
  • @balasankarc #1003 11:21 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    മലയാളം കിട്ടുമോ??
  • @nambolan #1004 11:25 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    Hi praveen
  • @gram_bot #1005 b o t 11:28 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: ഈ മലയാളം മതിയോ?
  • @gram_bot #1006 b o t 11:28 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: nambolan hi
  • @balasankarc #1007 11:29 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    മതി മതി..
  • @nambolan #1008 11:29 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    This is Anish Sheela.
  • @gram_bot #1009 b o t 11:30 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: This is Pirate Praveen
  • @balasankarc #1010 11:30 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    This is SPARTAAAAAAA!
  • @gram_bot #1011 b o t 11:31 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: അതാരാ?
  • @nambolan #1012 11:33 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    ഏതോ പാട്ട പയ്യനാ
  • @gram_bot #1013 b o t 11:35 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: സപ്പോട്ടയാണോ?
  • @gram_bot #1014 b o t 11:38 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Hi Pirate Praveen :)
  • @gram_bot #1015 b o t 11:39 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: ചാറ്റ് ഹിസ്റ്ററി കൂടിയുണ്ടായിരുന്നെങ്കിൽ തകർത്തേനേ..
  • @gram_bot #1016 b o t 11:41 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: balu_riot: come to #fci:matrix.org
  • @gram_bot #1017 b o t 11:41 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: ചാറ്റ് ഹിസ്സ്രറി already undallo
  • @stultus #1018 11:47 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    At least now we can chat to you :D @praveen[m]1
  • @gram_bot #1019 b o t 11:51 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Aurabindo: ഐആർസി ചാനലിൽ ഹിസ്റ്ററി ഉണ്ടോ? ഞാൻ കാണുന്നില്ലല്ലോ..
  • @gram_bot #1020 b o t 11:52 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: oh sorry, njaan Riot aanu uddeshichathu
  • @gram_bot #1021 b o t 11:52 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot kandappo njan karuthi matrix upayokikkukayanennu
  • @gram_bot #1022 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: I am on riot.im
  • @gram_bot #1023 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: then you can have the history for this IRC channel
  • @gram_bot #1024 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Where?
  • @gram_bot #1025 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: "appservice-irc:matrix.org made future room history visible to all room members, from the point they joined."
  • @gram_bot #1026 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: I see such a notice above
  • @gram_bot #1027 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: oh thats what you meant
  • @gram_bot #1028 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: then no
  • @gram_bot #1029 b o t 11:53 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: sorry :P
  • @gram_bot #1030 b o t 11:54 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: gave you false hopes :D
  • @gram_bot #1031 b o t 11:54 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: സോറി ശക്തിമാൻ പറ..
  • @gram_bot #1032 b o t 11:56 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: കവി ഉദ്ദെശിച്ചതു നാളെ വന്നല്‍ ഇന്നലത്തെ ചാറ്റ് കാണാം എന്നായിരുന്നു :P
  • @gram_bot #1033 b o t 11:56 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: ഞഞ്ഞായി..
  • @gram_bot #1034 b o t 11:57 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: :D
  • @gram_bot #1035 b o t 11:57 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Whaaat.. No emojis?
  • @gram_bot #1036 b o t 11:58 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: it supports.
  • @gram_bot #1037 b o t 11:59 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: i've seen people sending from mobiles
  • @gram_bot #1038 b o t 11:59 AM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: :-D :D
  • @gram_bot #1039 b o t 12:01 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: Aurabindo: I don't see emoji option here
  • @gram_bot #1040 b o t 12:01 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Pirate Praveen: its has to come from the keyboard :D
  • @gram_bot #1041 b o t 12:01 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: riot web doesnt have emojis
  • @gram_bot #1042 b o t 12:01 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: :D
  • @gram_bot #1043 b o t 12:02 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: I mean, in android when you keyboard has smileys, it shows up in the chats properly
  • @gram_bot #1044 b o t 12:02 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: 😱
  • @gram_bot #1045 b o t 12:02 PM, 08 Dec 2016
  • @gram_bot #1046 b o t 12:02 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: I had to go to conversations, type emoji and copy paste
  • @gram_bot #1047 b o t 12:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: Same keyboard shows emojis in conversations
  • @gram_bot #1048 b o t 12:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Yes, hopefully it will be fixed in the UI/UX run
  • @gram_bot #1049 b o t 12:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: > I had to go to conversations, type emoji and copy paste
  • @gram_bot #1050 b o t 12:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: You on Indic Keyboard?
  • @gram_bot #1051 b o t 12:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Long press the green circle at bottom-right end
  • @gram_bot #1052 b o t 12:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: The one used for "Enter", "Go" etc
  • @gram_bot #1053 b o t 12:04 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: [I haven't tried riot on mobile. Above is a guess]
  • @gram_bot #1054 b o t 12:04 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: balu_riot: found it👍
  • @gram_bot #1055 b o t 12:04 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: Yes, Indic Keyboard
  • @gram_bot #1056 b o t 12:05 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: Long press did the trick
  • @gram_bot #1057 b o t 12:05 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: :thumbsup:
  • @gram_bot #1058 b o t 12:05 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: No, that too didn't work
  • @gram_bot #1059 b o t 12:05 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: (y)
  • @gram_bot #1060 b o t 12:06 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: 😜😁
  • @gram_bot #1061 b o t 12:06 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]1: balu_riot: go to character map
  • @gram_bot #1062 b o t 12:10 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    bady[m]: when indic keyboard is installed from fdroid it keeps crashing while at the same time working fine when installed from play store
  • @gram_bot #1063 b o t 12:10 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    bady[m]: any idea why?
  • @gram_bot #1064 b o t 12:11 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Bady: I'm using it on cm13 and no issues at all. you will have to pull up adb logs
  • @gram_bot #1065 b o t 12:11 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Everyone's on matrix now?
  • @gram_bot #1066 b o t 12:11 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: This is good progress
  • @gram_bot #1067 b o t 12:13 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    bady[m]: Aurabindo: okay. by the way i have experienced the same on another phone as well. one on kitkat & the other on marshmallow.
  • @gram_bot #1068 b o t 12:15 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Bady: quite odd. I never had the Indic Keyboard crashing.
  • @gram_bot #1069 b o t 12:15 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: jerin: exciting times :)
  • @gram_bot #1070 b o t 12:17 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: What's with the nicks, can we have real names please? Getting hard to recognize from profile pictures
  • @gram_bot #1071 b o t 12:17 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Ah.. Many of us may not know many of us. :D
  • @gram_bot #1072 b o t 12:17 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: jerin: IRC habits. :)
  • @gram_bot #1073 b o t 12:18 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Ithippo aara, etha
  • @gram_bot #1074 b o t 12:18 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: :D
  • @gram_bot #1075 b o t 12:18 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: balu_riot: bsc?
  • @gram_bot #1076 b o t 12:19 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: balu_riot = @balasankarc = bsc
  • @gram_bot #1077 b o t 12:19 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: jerin: , njaan അരബിന്ദൊ . ചില സ്തലങ്ളില്‍ jayaura എന്നും അറിയപ്പെടും
  • @gram_bot #1078 b o t 12:20 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: ഇവിടൊക്കെ ഇതിനെ അരബിന്ദൊ എന്ന് പറയും.. പട്ടണത്തിലെന്തുവാ പറയുന്നേന്ന് അറിയില്ല..
  • @gram_bot #1079 b o t 12:21 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m] confused
  • @gram_bot #1080 b o t 12:22 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura blames balu_riot :D
  • @gram_bot #1081 b o t 12:24 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: So, dropping telegram for matrix?
  • @gram_bot #1082 b o t 12:25 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: I had 5 messaging application on phone at some point
  • @gram_bot #1083 b o t 12:25 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Too many apps now
  • @gram_bot #1084 b o t 12:37 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: jerin: lol, i deleted my telegram account altogether :D
  • @gram_bot #1085 b o t 12:43 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: jerin: i see a telegram bridge in the works. https://github.com/SijmenSchoon/telematrix
    SijmenSchoon/telematrix

    Bridge between Telegram and Matrix. Contribute to SijmenSchoon/telematrix development by creating an account on GitHub.

  • @gram_bot #1086 b o t 12:43 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: only one contributor though
  • @gram_bot #1087 b o t 12:50 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Aurabindo: We are having a telegram bridge now. Matrix - IRC - Telegram. :D
  • @gram_bot #1088 b o t 12:51 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Someone make a Matrix-XMPP bridge so we can lengthen the chain.
  • @gram_bot #1089 b o t 12:52 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: oh cool!
  • @gram_bot #1090 b o t 12:53 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: balu_riot: this channel is bridged to telegram ?
  • @nambolan #1091 12:53 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    yes
  • @gram_bot #1092 b o t 12:55 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: ah its an IRC to telegram bridge! :)
  • @gram_bot #1093 b o t 12:56 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: the one i linked before is matrix to telegram
  • @nambolan #1094 12:56 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    yes. 2 way communication. I am using telegram to send this messages
  • @gram_bot #1095 b o t 12:58 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: cool, but nambolan, I am unable to mention you! looks like you dont have an exclusive 'ghost'
  • @gram_bot #1096 b o t 12:58 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: as seen from Matrix
  • @nambolan #1097 12:59 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    nambolan is my telegram username
  • @gram_bot #1098 b o t 01:01 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: and your messages are coming from grambot. it would be nice to have an exclusive user so that people can painlessly mention other. now I need to type in your username (no autocomplete)
  • @nambolan #1099 01:03 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    yes, that's a disadvantage. The grambot code may have to be modified to do separate users. Don't know whether its even possible.
  • @gram_bot #1100 b o t 01:04 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: @akshay
  • @gram_bot #1101 b o t 01:30 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDe_riot[m]: I think maybe this can help: https://github.com/anewusername/mxpp
    anewusername/mxpp

    mxpp - Bot for bridging Matrix and XMPP

  • @gram_bot #1102 b o t 01:33 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: ഇൻഡിക് കീബോഡിൽ സ്വനലേഖയും ലിപ്യന്തരണവും തമ്മിൽ ഉള്ള വ്യത്യാസം എന്താണ്?
  • @gram_bot #1103 b o t 01:34 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Swanalekha is phonetic, Mozhi(ലിപ്യന്തരണം) is transliteration
  • @gram_bot #1104 b o t 01:34 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Phonetic = the way we speak
  • @gram_bot #1105 b o t 01:34 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: No big differences
  • @gram_bot #1106 b o t 01:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: balu_riot: okay :)
  • @gram_bot #1107 b o t 01:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
  • @gram_bot #1108 b o t 01:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: thanks
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1099 #1109 03:22 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    it's way more complicated, creating new IRC clients when people talk and connecting to channel, multiple connections, managing consistency across sessions, etc
  • @tachyons #1110 03:25 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    🤔
  • @gram_bot #1111 b o t 03:36 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: nambolan, because telegram is proprietary and centralized, it depends on the mood of the people who owns you. akshay, it won't be more complicated than xmpp->irc and matrix->irc bridges, both manages users transparently, because people are free to create those bridges as these are decentralized by design
  • @gram_bot #1112 b o t 03:47 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: praveen[m]2, the same problem applies to xmpp->irc and matrix -> irc bridges. It's just that in matrix's case there's a community and dedicated devs to solve it (as it is a key selling point)
  • @gram_bot #1113 b o t 04:12 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: asdofindia: how is it the same? Anyone can run a bridge for xmpp or matrix, where as only telegram owners can run such a bridge for telegram.
  • @gram_bot #1114 b o t 04:14 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: we were talking about the specific problem of there being no distinct nicks for bridged users
  • @gram_bot #1115 b o t 04:27 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: asdofindia: I'm talking about that only. It needs to run on the server.
  • @gram_bot #1116 b o t 04:33 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: erm. who says so?
  • @gram_bot #1117 b o t 04:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: asdofindia: As I understand, bots are created from one Bot Father, yes
  • @gram_bot #1118 b o t 04:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: ?
  • @gram_bot #1119 b o t 04:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: in telegram
  • @gram_bot #1120 b o t 04:35 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: yes. jayaura
  • @gram_bot #1121 b o t 04:36 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: or rather, bot api tokens are created from botfather in telegram
  • @gram_bot #1122 b o t 04:36 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: so in that case the functionality of bots is not restricted by bot father in any means?
  • @gram_bot #1123 b o t 04:36 PM, 08 Dec 2016
    jayaura: I see
  • 09 December 2016 (114 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1124 b o t 04:06 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: asdofindia: the xmpp irc bridge with transparent user mapping needs to run on the server
  • @gram_bot #1125 b o t 04:07 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: asdofindia: if you need any functionality not provided by the api, you are stuck. For xmpp, the xmpp server code is available to you.
  • @gram_bot #1126 b o t 04:09 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Pirate Praveen: asdofindia It all extends on the basic fact that telegram is closed. You can't build a stable building on a shaky floor..
  • @gram_bot #1127 b o t 04:13 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > Pirate Praveen: asdofindia It all extends on the basic fact that telegram is closed. You can't build a stable building on a shaky floor..
  • @gram_bot #1128 b o t 04:13 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: 👍
  • @akshay #1129 08:33 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Strange. I need this xmpp feature where I get a free server in cloud and low latency and good uptime and unlimited storage. Which files should I edit for that?
  • @gram_bot #1130 b o t 08:49 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDe_riot[m]: Unlimited file storage? Where?
  • @balasankarc #1131 08:49 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    @akshay Do add #sarcasm tag. :)
  • @gram_bot #1132 b o t 08:50 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDe_riot[m]: Oh! You were talking about the advantage of Telegram.
  • @gram_bot #1133 b o t 08:53 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDe_riot[m]: ഒരു നിമിഷട്ടേക്ക് ഞാൻ വിചാരിച്ചു ഫ്രീ ആയിട്ട് unlimited server കിട്ടും എന്ന്
  • @gram_bot #1134 b o t 09:00 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: akshay: you don't need xmpp for that, you just need to give up your freedom. I was talking about people who care about freedom.
  • @gram_bot #1135 b o t 09:24 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin: Same old, if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.
  • @tachyons #1136 09:31 AM, 09 Dec 2016
  • @gram_bot #1137 b o t 09:32 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > Same old, if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.
  • @gram_bot #1138 b o t 09:32 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: unless it's open & decentralized
  • @tachyons #1139 09:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    @bady : Who will pay deployment cost for such decentralised apps :-)
  • @gram_bot #1140 b o t 09:40 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: I never paid for Poddery/XMPP. :D
  • @gram_bot #1141 b o t 09:41 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: i never paid for disroot services too.
  • @tachyons ↶ Reply to #1140 #1142 09:43 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Someone else paying for you via donation 🙂
  • @gram_bot #1143 b o t 09:50 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: the point is free as in freedom matters, whether we use a free/community service or a paid service.
  • @akshay #1144 10:07 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    The point is free as in freedom extends also to having freedom to do whatever else in life we want to do while not having to worry about keeping one's servers running
  • @balasankarc #1145 10:15 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Definitely. Running a service on one's own can be one hell of a task. That is why we want more community owned services.

    We've been using libreinfra without much issues. And I don't think Manu have to do any regular maintenance work on it.
  • @balasankarc #1146 10:15 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    The argument of "Freedom includes freedom to choose proprietary software too" doesn't feel right to me.
  • @balasankarc #1147 10:16 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    But, no. I am not gonna ask anyone to quit Telegram. Not when I still am using it. But it would be nice for any FOSS-oriented guy to try and popularise FOSS alternatives too.
  • @akshay #1148 10:17 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    I think the concept of FOSS is obsolete when it comes to the Internet.
  • @balasankarc #1149 10:17 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    What about concept of freedom?
  • @balasankarc #1150 10:17 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    If that is obsolete, then there is something seriously wrong with the Internet.
  • @akshay #1151 10:21 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    By that logic, you would read news online only from community news websites running on wordpress
  • @akshay #1152 10:21 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Because what if times of India decides to implement adblock blocker
  • @akshay #1153 10:22 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You would search the Web only using yacy or pears (or some other peer to peer search). Because what if yahoo closes it api?
  • @akshay #1154 10:23 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You would read only blogs hosted using wordpress and not blogger
  • @akshay #1155 10:23 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You would not receive emails from Gmail
  • @akshay #1156 10:25 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Popularize alternatives - Okay.

    But criticize a service just because it is not FOSS - not okay
  • @balasankarc #1157 10:26 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Why not? Criticizing it because it is lacking a damn important aspect.
  • @balasankarc #1158 10:26 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    കുറ്റം പോലും പറയാതെ സൂക്ഷിക്കാൻ, ഇതെന്ത് ഗോമാതാവോ?
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1157 #1159 10:26 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Which aspect? Not being able to create new users on the fly?
  • @balasankarc #1160 10:26 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Not respecting my freedom.
  • @balasankarc #1161 10:28 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    ഉറക്കം നടിക്കുന്നവരെ ഉണർത്താൻ തീരെ സമയമില്ലാത്തതോണ്ട്, ഞാൻ വിട്ട്.. I am pretty sure I don't have to explain why FOSS is important to you, especially in Internet-era..
  • @akshay #1162 10:28 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You can criticize telegram saying "it's not FOSS"
  • @balasankarc #1163 10:29 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    "But criticize a service just because it is not FOSS - not okay"
  • @balasankarc #1164 10:29 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    ഏതെങ്കിലും ഒരെണ്ണം പറ ഭായ്..
  • @gram_bot #1165 b o t 10:29 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > akshay: By that logic, you would read news online only from community news websites running on wordpress
  • @gram_bot #1166 b o t 10:29 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: the fact that i have a wife doesn't mean that i shouldn't talk to other girls. but it's better to stay away from the girls that my wife doesn't like :)
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1166 #1167 10:31 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    And bad mouth other girls, that nobody else can marry them
  • @akshay #1168 10:31 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    That it's better off to marry your wife?
  • @gram_bot #1169 b o t 10:33 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: akshay: what's the actual problem here? criticizing non-free services?
  • @akshay #1170 10:33 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Yes.
  • @akshay #1171 10:33 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Stackoverflow.com runs on non-free software.
  • @akshay #1172 10:35 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Reddit also?
  • @akshay #1173 10:35 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Those are all non-free services with a specific mission which they're doing well.
  • @akshay #1174 10:35 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You can't just blanket attack them saying "if you're not paying you are product "
  • @akshay #1175 10:36 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    (I edited horse to those. Dunno if irc supports that. Because, freedom)
  • @gram_bot #1176 b o t 10:38 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Interesting
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1160 #1177 10:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Telegram in that sense respects your freedom to communicate. It just doesn't respect your freedom to edit server side.
  • @gram_bot #1178 b o t 10:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: akshay: is it okay to exploit user privacy just because they're using the services for free?
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1178 #1179 10:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Who has exploited what here?
  • @gram_bot #1180 b o t 10:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: If it was part of T&C
  • @gram_bot #1181 b o t 10:40 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Exploit.
  • @gram_bot #1182 b o t 10:40 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > akshay: @Bady[m]1, Who has exploited what here?
  • @gram_bot #1183 b o t 10:40 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: U can't even know unless it's open, that's the issue.
  • Windows respects my freedom to play solitaire. It just doesn't respect my freedom to change something that I doesn't like..
  • @balasankarc #1185 10:40 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Dude!
  • @gram_bot #1186 b o t 10:41 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Who's bady?
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1184 #1187 10:41 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    The difference is that in this case, telegram is a communication app which does what it needs to do. And Windows is an operating system not just a solitaire system
  • @nambolan #1188 10:42 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    I have a simple theory for me. I am a hypocrite.
  • @gram_bot #1189 b o t 10:42 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > akshay: @balasankarc, The difference is that in this case, telegram is a communication app which does what it needs to do. And Windows is an operating system not just a solitaire system
  • @gram_bot #1190 b o t 10:42 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: so is whatsapp
  • @akshay #1191 10:42 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    I think among the various criteria you use to judge a software, the ability to do what you want to do with it should rank high
  • Depends on your personal preference.
  • @balasankarc #1193 10:42 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    It's always convenience v/s freedom.
  • @balasankarc #1194 10:43 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You can't blame people for preferring freedom more.
  • @balasankarc #1195 10:43 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    You give preference to its easy-to-use nature, others may not.
  • @gram_bot #1196 b o t 10:44 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > Who's bady?
  • @gram_bot #1197 b o t 10:44 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: me 🙋
  • @gram_bot #1198 b o t 10:44 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: 😉
  • @gram_bot #1199 b o t 10:44 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Wow. You don't say. Nicholas Cage.jpg
  • @gram_bot #1200 b o t 10:44 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: Jerin: i'm ambady, a member of indian pirates
  • @gram_bot #1201 b o t 10:45 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: got here thru Private Praveen
  • @balasankarc #1202 10:45 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    > telegram is a communication app which does what it needs to do

    Yes. I totally agree. But, that doesn't hide the fact that it isn't FOSS. And that fact will be always under criticism.
  • @gram_bot #1203 b o t 10:45 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: OK. :D
  • @gram_bot #1204 b o t 10:46 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Bady: forgot the mention
  • @balasankarc #1205 10:47 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Telegram is a good IM solution. But, it doesn't respect my freedom. Hence, I find it bad, ethically. That matters to me in a software.
  • @gram_bot #1206 b o t 10:47 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: jerin: k, got it :)
  • @gram_bot #1207 b o t 10:47 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: > Yes. I totally agree. But, that doesn't hide the fact that it isn't FOSS. And that fact will be always under criticism.
  • @gram_bot #1208 b o t 10:47 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: What criticism?
  • @balasankarc #1209 10:48 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    > What criticism?

    It's not FOSS and hence is less trustworthy.
  • @anivar #1210 10:48 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Interesting discussion
  • @gram_bot #1211 b o t 10:49 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: telegram used to market itself as more secure than whatsapp. but how true is that now? telegram doesn't have end-to-end encryption by default. experts claim their encryption protocol isn't so strong.
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1205 #1212 10:54 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    IRC is a bad IM solution although it respects freedom to edit code. Maybe that makes it ethically great choice for you. But I wouldn't blame then telegram for not having the feature of adding random users on the fly.
  • @balasankarc #1213 10:56 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Just to point it out, none of those are my arguments. My only concern was Freedom.
  • @akshay #1214 10:56 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Your only concern is "freedom to edit server side code"
  • @akshay #1215 10:57 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    That's also my problem
  • @gram_bot #1216 b o t 10:58 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: a master may help a slave to fulfill basic physical needs. does that mean the slave should praise his master?
  • Nope. Software Freedom, as in all of the 4 freedoms.

    Please don't put words in my mouth.
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1216 #1218 10:58 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Stop your analogies.
  • @balasankarc #1219 10:59 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    > a master may help a slave to fulfill basic physical needs. does that mean the slave should praise his master?

    Bad analogy. You have the freedom to leave, even in Telegram.
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1217 #1220 10:59 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Okay. Four freedoms. Freedom to edit. Freedom to share. Freedom to share edits and whatever. That is all about code
  • @balasankarc #1221 10:59 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Yes. The code which provides the service.
  • @balasankarc #1222 10:59 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Again, shaky floor, unstable building.
  • @gram_bot #1223 b o t 11:00 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > Bad analogy. You have the freedom to leave, even in Telegram.
  • @gram_bot #1224 b o t 11:00 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: i wasn't just talking about telegram
  • @gram_bot #1225 b o t 11:02 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: > akshay: @Bady[m]1, Stop your analogies.
  • @gram_bot #1226 b o t 11:02 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: raise Ur argument, not voice.
  • @gram_bot #1227 b o t 11:04 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: master-slave analogy represents the situation pretty well. some slaves doesn't even know what all are their rights, they don't even know they're being exploited.
  • @gram_bot #1228 b o t 11:07 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    Bady[m]1: we're just corporate slaves, owned by google, microsoft, apple, facebook, etc.
  • @gram_bot #1229 b o t 11:29 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jayaura: totally agree to it Bady. Suddenly, all these companies disappear, most people would think that they're in stone and also that their phone is no more useless than the old Nokias
  • @gram_bot #1230 b o t 11:30 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    jayaura: stone age*
  • @gram_bot #1231 b o t 11:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: akshay, without the source code, you have to trust the owner of solely depend on the service provider. Where as with decentralization and Free Software, I can be my own provider if I want to or choose a community run service. I have choice. It costs money, but give self reliance. As for services like reddit, it is not essential, but messaging is essential. I'm not locked into Times of India. There are multiple issues
  • @gram_bot #1232 b o t 11:39 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: here and priorities of each issue vary. Its stupid to use Telegram if the excuse is, I have to use Times of India anyway. Some battles take time to win. I think with riot, we have won the battle of messaging.
  • @gram_bot #1233 b o t 11:47 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    praveen[m]2: nambolan: that is as lame as "I have sacrificed everything for my country"
  • @tachyons #1234 11:51 AM, 09 Dec 2016
    മനുഷ്യനുണ്ടാക്കിയ കൂട്ടിൽ സ്വയം പോയിരുന്നു മനുഷ്യൻ നൽകുന്ന ഭക്ഷണം കഴിക്കാനുള്ള ഒരു പക്ഷിയുടെ സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യം 🙂
  • @nambolan #1235 12:25 PM, 09 Dec 2016
    ഞാനോടി.
  • @stultus #1236 07:06 PM, 09 Dec 2016
    \
  • @gram_bot #1237 b o t 07:06 PM, 09 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Long time, stultus!
  • 10 December 2016 (30 messages)
  • @stultus #1238 06:31 AM, 10 Dec 2016
    Not so long :D
  • @gram_bot #1239 b o t 01:38 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: At least we can now all chat using laptops.
  • @gram_bot #1240 b o t 01:39 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Eh? Why couldn't we do that earlier?
  • @gram_bot #1241 b o t 01:40 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: Because kontalk and signal were fucked up in that sense
  • @gram_bot #1242 b o t 01:40 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    balu_riot[m]: Oh.. Kontalk and Signal.. Yes. They were.. I was thinking about XMPP.
  • @gram_bot #1243 b o t 01:41 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: I was thinking about @praveen:matrix.org
  • @gram_bot #1244 b o t 01:42 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: Also autistici had problems connecting to diasp.in which we can forget for now :P
  • @gram_bot #1245 b o t 01:45 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: btw, https://gist.github.com/fstab/ce805d3001600ac147b79d413668770d might interest some here
    How to use matrix.org and vector.im as an IRC client

    How to use matrix.org and vector.im as an IRC client - MATRIX.md

  • @gram_bot #1246 b o t 01:46 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: vector.im is now riot.im
  • @gram_bot #1247 b o t 02:06 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: > Akshay joined
  • @gram_bot #1248 b o t 02:06 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Yay!
  • @gram_bot #1249 b o t 02:08 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: We've been playing around with matrix at mozilla since a long time. https://riot.im/app/#/room/#gitter_mozilla-participation-leadership-toolkit=2Flobby:matrix.org
  • @gram_bot #1250 b o t 02:08 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    Matrix and IRC - Mozillians custom client?

    Continuing the discussion from Trying out Slack?: People really like telegram. I've just checked it out on a recent trip and I don't see why we can't create an IRC client that gives the same UX as telegram. We could even make some Mozillians customizations, like linking to your Mozillians profile if you want, to update your profile picture. We could use some sort of bouncer or logger to allow people to see what messages they missed. What are the other technical benefits of Telegram and h...

  • @gram_bot #1251 b o t 02:28 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Oh, nice
  • @gram_bot #1252 b o t 02:28 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: I joined after I got introduced in #SunPy
  • @gram_bot #1253 b o t 02:41 PM, 10 Dec 2016
  • @gram_bot #1254 b o t 02:42 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: did voice call work for anyone?
  • @gram_bot #1255 b o t 02:52 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Akshay: yes , tried between riot web and ios app
  • @gram_bot #1256 b o t 02:52 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Bith audio and video
  • @gram_bot #1257 b o t 02:53 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: What!
  • @gram_bot #1258 b o t 02:53 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    Guest59742: Lots of room for improvement but does the job
  • @gram_bot #1259 b o t 02:53 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: test
  • @gram_bot #1260 b o t 02:54 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: test
  • @gram_bot #1261 b o t 02:54 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Not for me
  • @gram_bot #1262 b o t 02:54 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    Guest59742: jerin: what clients ?
  • @gram_bot #1263 b o t 02:55 PM, 10 Dec 2016
  • @gram_bot #1264 b o t 02:56 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    Guest59742: jerin: i thought you were saying calls weren't working for in matrix ?
  • @gram_bot #1265 b o t 03:18 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Akshay: wanna try again, I'm on 2G now, once I get back to hostel I can switch to fast internet
  • @gram_bot #1266 b o t 04:45 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDe_riot[m]: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/EQaQmkLuFCwVJmAjaDwlQkoG - SpEcHiDe_riot[m]_2016-12-10_16:44:55.txt
  • @akshay ↶ Reply to #1266 #1267 07:19 PM, 10 Dec 2016
    Is forwarded as attachment
  • 11 December 2016 (17 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1268 b o t 06:32 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: Those who are on matrix, join #fci:matrix.org (fosscommunity.in)
  • @gram_bot #1269 b o t 06:36 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Guest92976: Or, #fci:disroot.org . They both refer to rooms, thanks to brilliant decentralized design!
  • @gram_bot #1270 b o t 06:36 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Guest92976: same* rooms
  • @gram_bot #1271 b o t 06:41 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: Aurabindo: yes 💪
  • @tachyons #1272 06:44 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    riot is not connecting
  • @tachyons #1273 06:44 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    From jio
  • @167559785 #1274 06:44 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    How does jio matter? :-o
  • @tachyons #1275 06:45 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    They sometimes block websites for no reason
  • @gram_bot #1276 b o t 06:45 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: VPN?
  • @gram_bot #1277 b o t 06:45 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: I'm bypassing college port restrictions using PIA
  • @gram_bot #1278 b o t 06:46 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: :)
  • @gram_bot #1279 b o t 06:46 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Guest92976: tachyons jio blocking riot is highly unlikely
  • @gram_bot #1280 b o t 06:46 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Guest92976: i've used jio with riot. didnt have any problems
  • @tachyons #1281 06:47 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Thanks for the tip , it is working via vpn
  • @167559785 #1282 06:48 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Which service are you using, btw?
  • @tachyons #1283 06:48 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    Opera vpn
  • @gram_bot #1284 b o t 10:30 AM, 11 Dec 2016
    M-akshay: http://generals.io
    Link

    Protect your general, command your army, take control of land, and capture other generals in this fast-paced multiplayer strategy game.

  • 13 December 2016 (37 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1285 b o t 05:38 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: Hey guys, i'd like to contribute to the Indic-Keyboard project, and am having some issues during build. Every time i run gradle assembleDebug, i get an error saying ' Gradle version 2.2 is required. Current version is 3.2.1.'. I've tried changing the distributionUrl in gradle-wrapper.properties as recommended, but haven't been successful in building it after that either. Can anyone help me out with this?
  • @balasankarc #1286 05:41 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    @jishnu7 ^
  • @gram_bot #1287 b o t 05:41 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDe_riot[m]: I think the problem is that you have to edit the build.gradle file and change the grade version to 3.2.1
  • @gram_bot #1288 b o t 05:42 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: Alright, i'll try that out, thanks :)
  • @gram_bot #1289 b o t 05:54 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: Didn't work, i was given a 'Could not resolve all dependencies for configuration ':classpath'. > Could not find com.android.tools.build:gradle:3.2.1.'
  • @167559785 #1290 06:48 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    Gradle 2.2.x is the latest, is it not?
  • @gram_bot #1291 b o t 08:23 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: According to gradle.org, 'The latest release of Gradle is version 3.2.1, released on 22nd November 2016.'
  • @167559785 #1292 08:23 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    Oh.
  • @gram_bot #1293 b o t 08:25 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Android gradle too?
  • @gram_bot #1294 b o t 08:26 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: There's an alpha which was 2.2.4, the one I have in my projects is 2.2.2 or something
  • @gram_bot #1295 b o t 08:30 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: FleetAdmiral: still around?
  • @gram_bot #1296 b o t 08:35 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: Not so sure about the android gradle tbh
  • @gram_bot #1297 b o t 08:37 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: Ok, i'm guessing android is still at 2.2 though it does recognise 3.2.1 also so i'm not very convinced
  • @gram_bot #1298 b o t 08:37 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: any idea about a workaround?
  • @gram_bot #1299 b o t 08:54 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: FleetAdmiral: I'm not sure without logs, I just cloned the repo, opened java folder in android studio, few proxy, and installs, gradle build seems to be working fine now
  • @gram_bot #1300 b o t 08:55 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: hmm, ill try a fresh build again
  • @gram_bot #1301 b o t 08:55 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: I'm using gradle:1.5.0+, in the config
  • @gram_bot #1302 b o t 08:56 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: i had tried with that too, didn't work
  • @gram_bot #1303 b o t 08:59 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Logs/Error message, "doesn't work" has no useful info.
  • @gram_bot #1304 b o t 09:00 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Stop running gradle assembleDebug
  • @gram_bot #1305 b o t 09:00 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Open project in studio
  • @gram_bot #1306 b o t 09:01 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: FleetAdmiral: ^,^^,^^^
  • @gram_bot #1307 b o t 09:02 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: Yea, that is what i was doing, i messed about with the file too much, so i'm cloning it again and will try building it afresh. I'll make sure to post the log messages this time
  • @gram_bot #1308 b o t 09:03 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: asdofindia: are you around? This might be similar to the lisp machine, knight vs novice scenario. :D
  • @gram_bot #1309 b o t 09:06 PM, 13 Dec 2016
  • @gram_bot #1310 b o t 09:26 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: ^That worked, thanks a lot :D
  • @gram_bot #1311 b o t 09:27 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Now uncomment signing part and try ./gradle assembleDebug
  • @gram_bot #1312 b o t 09:28 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Studio would've put a gradle executable in the directory
  • @gram_bot #1313 b o t 09:28 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: You can get that part fixed too, I'm guessing
  • @gram_bot #1314 b o t 09:29 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: From the terminal, I mean.
  • @gram_bot #1315 b o t 09:29 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: ./gradle for the local executable
  • @gram_bot #1316 b o t 09:30 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: alright, i'll try that out too
  • @gram_bot #1317 b o t 09:31 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Prefer https over the ssh clone, btw
  • @gram_bot #1318 b o t 09:31 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: I think repo instructions have ssh clone
  • @gram_bot #1319 b o t 09:31 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: ^yea, that i do
  • @gram_bot #1320 b o t 09:41 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    FleetAdmiral: All working fine now, thanks a lot for the help :D
  • @gram_bot #1321 b o t 09:47 PM, 13 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: :)
  • 15 December 2016 (8 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1322 b o t 02:49 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Who's here?
  • @nambolan #1323 02:50 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    humans and bots
  • @gram_bot #1324 b o t 02:50 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: :D
  • @gram_bot #1325 b o t 02:51 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: I'm home. And jio seems to be still quite decent, compared to BSNL broadband unlimited I have
  • @tachyons #1326 02:51 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    😐
  • @gram_bot #1327 b o t 03:17 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    jayaura: jerin: I seriously think that Jio is favoring youtube. The other day I was inside my home. Speed and latency was quite worse for some reason, and I tried opening youtube, along with couple of other pages without videos or anything.
  • @gram_bot #1328 b o t 03:17 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    jayaura: To my surprise, youtube has already loaded and started playing video. But at the same time, the other website were not even dont loading
  • @167559785 #1329 04:19 PM, 15 Dec 2016
    jayaura: Oh, youtube worked great. Must try other sites.
  • 19 December 2016 (12 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1330 b o t 04:58 AM, 19 Dec 2016
    yashjain: hello everyone, I am Yash from VIT University, India. I wanted to get started with open source contribution, can anyone provide me any leads, how to get started with smc ?
  • @gram_bot #1331 b o t 01:52 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: yashjain: welcome here. I can help you with maintaining debian packages, there are others here who would be able to help you in other areas.
  • @167559785 #1332 02:32 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    എന്ന്
    എന്ന്‌
    Difference, above two?
  • @gram_bot #1333 b o t 06:03 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: j4v4m4n, അങ്ങേരൊക്കെ പണ്ടേ ക്വിറ്റ് ചെയ്തു് പോയി
  • @gram_bot #1334 b o t 06:05 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: :'D
  • @gram_bot #1335 b o t 06:05 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: asdofindia: hmm
  • @gram_bot #1336 b o t 06:06 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Where's stultus these days?
  • @gram_bot #1337 b o t 06:06 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: asdofindia: it was auto completing - on conversations, it notifies if the user has quit
  • @gram_bot #1338 b o t 06:06 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Quite some time since I've seen that nick
  • @gram_bot #1339 b o t 06:08 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    asdofindia: stultus ഏതോ വിദേശ രാജ്യത്തൂന്ന് സേര്‍ച്ച് എന്‍ജിന്‍ ഉണ്ടാക്കുവല്ലേ?
  • @gram_bot #1340 b o t 06:09 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: > stultus ഏതോ വിദേശ രാജ്യത്തൂന്ന് സേര്‍ച്ച് എന്‍ജിന്‍ ഉണ്ടാക്കുവല്ലേ?
  • @gram_bot #1341 b o t 06:09 PM, 19 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Eh, wasn't the UK visit for some talk? He's not back?
  • 20 December 2016 (8 messages)
  • @balasankarc #1342 04:47 AM, 20 Dec 2016
    @stultus പൂയ്! സ്റ്റാറ്റസ് അപ്ഡേറ്റ് താ.. :D
  • @nambolan #1343 05:15 AM, 20 Dec 2016
    Yes, stultus is back
  • @gram_bot #1344 b o t 11:33 AM, 20 Dec 2016
    stultus: എന്തൂട്ട് അപ്ഡേറ്റ് ?
  • @gram_bot #1345 b o t 11:33 AM, 20 Dec 2016
    stultus: jerin[m], I'm here
  • @gram_bot #1346 b o t 11:34 AM, 20 Dec 2016
    stultus: ഇവിടെന്താ ഉത്സവം വല്ലോം ഉണ്ടോ? നെറച്ചും ആളാണല്ലോ .. :P
  • @tachyons #1347 12:17 PM, 20 Dec 2016
    riot effect
  • @gram_bot #1348 b o t 12:22 PM, 20 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: stultus try riot
  • @gram_bot #1349 b o t 06:13 PM, 20 Dec 2016
    Guest91236: Hi stultus! howyadoin!
  • 21 December 2016 (10 messages)
  • @jishnu7 #1350 01:45 AM, 21 Dec 2016
    How do I join irc from riot?
  • @gram_bot #1351 b o t 01:48 AM, 21 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDeR: #freenode_#smc_project: matrix.org
  • @gram_bot #1352 b o t 01:49 AM, 21 Dec 2016
    How to use matrix.org and vector.im as an IRC client

    How to use matrix.org and vector.im as an IRC client - MATRIX.md

  • @gram_bot #1353 b o t 05:59 AM, 21 Dec 2016
    jishnu7[m]: thanks SpEcHiDeR
  • @stultus #1354 06:29 AM, 21 Dec 2016
  • @stultus #1355 06:30 AM, 21 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n , mahir is trying to get you through phone
  • @gram_bot #1356 b o t 06:27 PM, 21 Dec 2016
    SpEcHiDeR: What's the difference between എന്ന് and എന്ന്‌ ?
  • @gram_bot #1357 b o t 06:28 PM, 21 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: My question?
  • @gram_bot #1358 b o t 06:29 PM, 21 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Zero width joiner or non joiner
  • @gram_bot #1359 b o t 06:29 PM, 21 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Weird character, appears often
  • 22 December 2016 (2 messages)
  • @tachyons ↶ Reply to #1356 #1360 02:14 AM, 22 Dec 2016
    A question mark
  • @gram_bot #1361 b o t 12:41 PM, 22 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: stultus now only one sim active, yuphoria broke, back to firefox os
  • 23 December 2016 (1 messages)
  • @anivar #1362 07:50 AM, 23 Dec 2016
    Anivar Aravind:
    http://www.medianama.com/2016/12/223-year-end-rant-2016-technology-has-never-been-this-political-in-india/

    It’s discomfiting how close the technology industry and government have gotten this year. Lets take iSpirt as an example: unlike most organisations, iSpirt benefits from proximity to TRAI Chairman RS Sharma – the Chairman served along with many iSpirt volunteers in Aadhaar, including Nandan Nilekani. They got early access to Ravi Shankar Prasad, who was pitched to for support for Indian product startup shortly after he became IT Minister in 2014, and Jayant Sinha, current Minister of State for Civil Aviation (previously, Finance), appears to be a regular at iSpirt events. They get meetings at the PMO. Flipkart’s payments application was the first to use IndiaStack, which has been set up by iSpirt, and is being used by the National Payments Council of India for enabling UPI payments, but in a manner that is closed to others. As a think tank, iSpirt is doing an exceptional job of pitching to the government and non-government bodies such as the NPCI, which impacts payments.
    Year end rant 2016: Technology has never been this political in India

    There's something deeply worrying with where we're going with digital, when the founder of India's (self-proclaimed) largest fintech company stands up on a stage and, in a manner that resembles a rallying cry and all the passion that comes with it, calls it his company's "pious mission" to make Indi

  • 25 December 2016 (1 messages)
  • 27 December 2016 (2 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1364 b o t 02:37 PM, 27 Dec 2016
    ലോകോത്തര ടൈപ്പ് സെറ്റിംഗ് സാങ്കേതിക വിദ്യയുടെ  കരുത്തില്‍ കേരള പാണിനീയം ഡിജിറ്റലാവുന്നു

    ഏ.ആര്‍. രാജരാജവര്‍മ്മ രചിച്ച മലയാളത്തിലെ എക്കാലത്തെയും മികച്ച വ്യാകരണഗ്രന്ഥമായ കേരളപാണിനീയം ഡിജിറ്റലാവുന്നു.

  • @tachyons ↶ Reply to #1363 #1365 02:56 PM, 27 Dec 2016
    🤔
  • 30 December 2016 (7 messages)
  • @167559785 #1366 06:52 AM, 30 Dec 2016
    Varnam Java interface scene entha, aa ndk bug shariyayo
  • @stultus #1367 08:36 AM, 30 Dec 2016
    @navaneethkn ^
  • @navaneethkn #1368 09:52 AM, 30 Dec 2016
    Not yet
  • @navaneethkn #1369 09:52 AM, 30 Dec 2016
    Vishnu told he is working on it. But kind of stuck I guess
  • @gram_bot #1370 b o t 05:59 PM, 30 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: jishnu_riot: search for irc channel in group directory
  • @gram_bot #1371 b o t 05:59 PM, 30 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: or join like #freenode_#smc-project:matrix.org
  • @gram_bot #1372 b o t 06:01 PM, 30 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Eh, what's this about?
  • 31 December 2016 (7 messages)
  • @gram_bot #1373 b o t 12:57 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: FOSSMeet'17, CFP! Only 10 days left. Submit yours @ http://funnel.fossmeet.in/2017/
    FOSSMeet 2017

    FOSSMeet 2017 – The funnel is a space for proposals and voting on events. Pick an event to get started.

  • @gram_bot #1374 b o t 12:57 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    j4v4m4n: jerin: joining irc from matrix
  • @gram_bot #1375 b o t 10:06 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: That was answered long back, does riot disconnect/miss messages in between? Pirate Praveen
  • @gram_bot #1376 b o t 10:26 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    qwebirc44922: Hello?
  • @gram_bot #1377 b o t 10:28 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Yes?
  • @gram_bot #1378 b o t 10:28 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    jerin[m]: Hello.
  • @gram_bot #1379 b o t 10:30 AM, 31 Dec 2016
    muppeth[m]: jerin: there was an issue with matrix network in general the past days. a patch has been released and now it seems to be going back to normal